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PostSubject: Skate 3 huh ? Eh ? Huh ?   Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:02 pm

I felt like a bit of a douche making fun of this new game, as I really liked the first two. I finished Skate 2 and was hungry for more. I actually think Skate 3 will be great.

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I kind of meant what I said in the video. I think this series is straying pretty far from what it seemed to be all about in the first place, and drifting towards the fantastical, over-the-top style of the Tony Hawk series. I understand it must be hard for the deveopers to come up with new ideas and still 'keep it real', but the recent trailers really set off my bullshit meter - style wise.
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PostSubject: Re: Skate 3 huh ? Eh ? Huh ?   Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:01 pm

the thing I liked about Tony Hawk games was the amount of air time you had and how many cool tricks you could do. You could do some pretty interesting things in it.

It didn't even TRY to be realistic, and I loved that about the tony hawk games.

Skate, however, not so much. If I want realistic skating, I'd go skate. It's not like a shooting game or a drag racing game where it's life threatening and impossible to go out and do it on a whim, it's just skating. You can go out and step on a skateboard and skate. You might get a little banged up if you're not paying attention, but it's very possible.

That's the main beef I have with overly realistic games. It has to have something that disconnects it from reality on a fairly large scale, because reality sucks.
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PostSubject: Re: Skate 3 huh ? Eh ? Huh ?   Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:54 pm

Well, considering that the reviews ARE with extreme prejudice, if you had talked about how much you liked it I'd have thought that you actually hated it.

Hilarious review btw
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PostSubject: Re: Skate 3 huh ? Eh ? Huh ?   Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:16 pm

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the thing I liked about Tony Hawk games was the amount of air time you had and how many cool tricks you could do. You could do some pretty interesting things in it.

It didn't even TRY to be realistic, and I loved that about the tony hawk games.

Word up, home slice. Don't get me wrong, I love the Tony Hawk games. I've played ... well I think I've played all of them. I think they just got better and better as time went on, most of the stuff they added just made it better and more complex.

And I loved Skate as well. But I loved it because it wasn't Tony Hawk. Those games already do that cartoony skating as well as it needs to be done - we didn't need another one. Skate was different and awesome in a different way. But now it seems to be losing some of that uniqueness with I think is sad.

I like pizza and I like icecream. But I don't really want a kind of wet, soggy, sweet, milky pizza dough mash that's a bastard child of the two. Actually, now I think about it, perhaps I do. But that doesn't change my position on Skate 3.
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PostSubject: Re: Skate 3 huh ? Eh ? Huh ?   Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:49 pm

I understand both positions, and I have my own: the more unrealistic the game is, the less appealing it is to me. So is with realism; I think that a video game - keywords: 'video' and 'game' - should be faithful to the overall scheme but still be compelling in a sense that you can do stuff you aren't allowed to in the real world.

I made a comment on GTA 4 on another thread (about Open Worlds) and I'll use it as yet another example in here: yes, you steal cars, yes, you kill people and run away from the police... yes, with the click of a button you just destroy car windows... wait a minute, that's not so realistic. You murder, destroy property, assassinate politicians, lay low for a couple of minutes and not a sign of persecution!?

Well, this is what games are all about. I recently bought NFS: Shift, and personally, I didn't like it much. On the other hand, a game like Dirt 2 had just as cool graphics, was just as deep and through, but it had the right ammount of fantasy to it.

Haven't played TH Skating or Skate1-2, and I don't quite enjoy skating altogether. But the main argument about reality and fantasy is here and what I have to add is that the game has to be realistic to an extent, and then add fantasy where it gets too realistic. The ammount of fantasy they add to the mix is what will determine what kind of people will like the game.

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PostSubject: Re: Skate 3 huh ? Eh ? Huh ?   Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:22 pm

I hear you, but I can't fully agree. I can find pleasure in both sides. Take a couple of racing games I have on the XBOX - Burnout Paradise and Forza 3. I like them both. I like Forza 3 for its meticulous and realistic modelling of cars / tracks / physics and so on. It's kind of like realist car fetish porn. But then sometimes I want to turn up the music, powerslide around some corners, smash through some billboards and smack other cars off the road. That's when I play Burnout.

Likewise - shooters. If they were more realistic then let's face it, veyr few of them would be playable. A single headshot would kill you outright and even for normal wounds, there's be no healing outside of a couple of months in a hospital ward.

I get why people like ultra-realistic flight sims, landing a 747 at Heathrow airport. But for me there's still a lot of room in my heart for the Ace Combat games, shooting missiles at a flying aircraft carrier.

My gripe with Skate 3 (if indeed it is a gripe, I haven't played the finished product yet) is that it seems to be trying to sit on both stools at the same time, and is slipping down the gap in between.
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PostSubject: Re: Skate 3 huh ? Eh ? Huh ?   Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:58 am

You know, I keep telling myself I would love a realistic game on many genres but when I play them, they aren't as fun as lets say playing as a uzi-wielding, potty-mouth, demon with a 36 inch dick who is out to kill Satan with the help of a witty, but reliable Jesus.
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PostSubject: Re: Skate 3 huh ? Eh ? Huh ?   Fri May 14, 2010 4:19 pm

So I've played about two hours of this so far and I like it. If you've played any of Skate 2 or even the original Skate, then this is pretty much more of the same. Some small tweks, a few new moves but the core is just a slightly more polished version of the same. Which in my opinion is just fine, because I like the Skate series. I'll definitely be putting more time into this one.

Oh, and I don't play online, but there seem to beloads more online options for desingning and sharing skate parks and so on. Not my kind of thing, but I know some people will find a lot to like there.
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